Canadian Tuxedo Optional ([info]michaelpop) wrote,
@ 2007-11-15 16:12:00
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Run from the pigs, the fuzz, the cops, the heat.
Up until a few months ago, I'd only gotten 2 traffic tickets over the course of the previous 7 years. I think that's pretty good, but I know there are some of you out there who are like, "Only 2 tickets? I've never gotten a ticket in my life!" and all I can say to that is don't worry, your day will come. But I've driven nearly 200,000 miles in those 7 years so the law of averages starts working against me a little more. But back to those tickets. There was the time 7 years ago when I was driving around Venice fruitlessly looking for some street parking and I kind of casually rolled through a stop sign. My infraction caught the eye of a cop who was already in the middle of writing some other poor schmuck a ticket and he waved at me to pull over. I did because I thought he was just going to tell me to turn my stereo down. If I'd have known he was going to give me a ticket I would've "pretended" I didn't see him and driven off. So that was lame. Then a couple of years ago I got pulled over on the freeway for speeding. Fine, whatever, I was due. Fast-forward to July, right before I left for my trip to Atlanta, and I got pulled over for stopping on railroad tracks. The area around where I work is flanked by railroad tracks and it's especially annoying at this one particular light because there's only room for about 3 cars to be stopped before you're on the tracks and it's hard to gauge when to pull up short until you're already stuck on the tracks. So I'm idling on the tracks for only about 30 seconds but that was just enough time for a cop who was driving in the opposite direction to stop in the middle of the street and yell at me through his loudspeaker.

"You in the silver Civic, please pull over into the next driveway"



The guy behind me was on the tracks too, so he got collared along with me. Again, lame. But whatever, traffic tickets are just another expense, part of the cost of living in Los Angeles. You factor it into your budget. If you get a ticket every couple of years and pro-rate it out, it only comes out to like an extra $10 a month. Just pennies a day for the privilege of driving our wonderful roads.

But if you get two tickets in less than 60 days, then you're kind of fucked.

I was leaving a bar after having about 5 cocktails over the course of a few hours. We were celebrating Daniel's birthday, I was celebrating new love; it was a good night. Well, up until I got pulled over by the Highway Patrol. Because of some stupid freeway construction I was forced into taking a detour that caused me to exit the freeway. When I got back onto the freeway I started my usual drift towards the far-left lane. Unfortunately, I was going a little fast and almost merged right into a Highway Patrol car. I mean, I saw him over my left shoulder before attempting to switch lanes, but I got nervous and hastily over-corrected back into my lane and abruptly reduced my speed by taking my foot off the gas. The cop must've noticed and a few seconds later I saw those flashing lights in my rear-view mirror. The first thing that raced into my mind? DUI. I wasn't drunk, but I got those shitty lightweight Asian genes, and I get all glassy-eyed and red-faced after eating tiramisu, so I'm sure the cop was going to take one look at me and haul me into the pokey for the night. My plan, then, was to be as honest as possible and hope the cop would take mercy on me. I mean, I obviously couldn't lie about having had anything to drink since it was so clearly written all over my face.

So when the officer came up to my window and started the usual procession of questions, I answered calmly and truthfully. I'd come from a bar, officer. Yes, I had a few drinks, officer. Oh, I only had 2 drinks, officer, and stopped drinking hours ago. So I might've been fudging the truth a little on that last one, but really, what he didn't know couldn't hurt him. The cop was pretty nice, but he still asked me to step out of the vehicle. This is where I started thinking, "please don't make me say the alphabet backwards" because I can't even do that shit sober. And "please don't make me walk any straight lines", because I don't do anything straight because surely being clumsy and unbalanced isn't a crime, right? Instead I got the "follow this light back and forth with your eyes" test, and I concentrated SO hard on not fucking up. I was still a little worried about it 'cos I wear contacts and I was afraid that they might pop out or something and I'd fail and it'd have nothing at all to do with alcohol. But after what seemed like an hour, I was told to go back and have a seat in my car. A few minutes later he came back and handed me a speeding ticket (going 75 in a 65 zone) and I breathed a sigh of relief knowing it could've been so much worse.

Then I got the notice in the mail and my fine for speeding? $400. Man. Still, it could've been much worse.

Anyway, the reason I'm posting all this is because I opted to do traffic school on my first ticket so I can get that off my record so I don't get totally reamed by my insurance company. I've never done traffic school before and wondered if anyone else has. I'm leaning towards doing it online, but, maybe there's a benefit to doing it another way? I don't know. Help!


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online traffic school
(Anonymous)
2007-11-16 12:17 am UTC (link)
I got a traffic ticket once for speeding and I found out that you can take Traffic School Online (http://www.gototrafficschool.com) to make sure the ticket doesn't go on your record. It was nice having a little security. The one I went to was really easy www.gototrafficschool.com (http://www.gototrafficschool.com).

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Re: online traffic school
[info]michaelpop
2007-11-16 12:22 am UTC (link)
Wow, this might be the most helpful spam ever. Thanks, anonymous!

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Re: online traffic school
[info]redelvis
2007-11-16 12:32 am UTC (link)
hahahaha serious spam. that's a rad randomly generated thingie. I did one online too... it was the one from Glendale City College so I knew they wouldn't take my money and laugh at me.

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Re: online traffic school
[info]michaelpop
2007-11-16 12:34 am UTC (link)
Any LINX?? And how much $$$?? I kind of want to get out of it at cheaply as possible, OBVS.

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Re: online traffic school
[info]redelvis
2007-11-16 12:38 am UTC (link)
whuuuh?! start looking!

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Re: online traffic school
[info]michaelpop
2007-11-16 12:46 am UTC (link)
That's cool! I got an approved list from the court so, yeah. I want to go to PIZZA4UCOMEDIANS school 'cos HOW FRESH WOULD PIZZA BE!! But yeah, I think I'll just do it online and put a pizza in the microwave or something while watching this.

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[info]oldpplpowerwalk
2007-11-16 12:26 am UTC (link)
I've also have only gotten two tickets since i started driving about 6 years ago. I did traffic school the first time, it's like a full 8 hours of being bored out of your mind. I did the online traffic school the second time around and it was much easier...supposed to take the same amount of time but the quizes at the end of the page are so easy that i didn't really have to read any of the sections.

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[info]michaelpop
2007-11-16 12:31 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I'm trying to avoid having to actually sit somewhere for 8 hours and that's what's making the online option so appealing. You can go at your own pace and all that. Hm, thanks!

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[info]redelvis
2007-11-16 12:33 am UTC (link)
I swear the online one takes like 1/8th of the time and it doesn't subject you to youtube video of accidents. ha!

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[info]michaelpop
2007-11-16 12:35 am UTC (link)
I think most online ones make you stay on a screen for a certain amount of time so you can't just "flip to the end" after 5 minutes and be done. But maybe yours was different?

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[info]redelvis
2007-11-16 12:41 am UTC (link)
Yeah you had to wait a few minutes for each page, but it wasn't more than a few minutes I don't think. I did the whole thing in less than an hour I swears. Well maybe 1... but definitely not 2... although mine was a stupid "california roll" so maybe speeding tickets are different?! i dont know.

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[info]redelvis
2007-11-16 12:43 am UTC (link)
oh yeah and when you choose to pay the ticket and take traffic school online they give you a bunch of links to look at... that's where i got my link i think...

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morganology
2007-11-16 12:47 am UTC (link)
That's what I mean by letting the clock run. The site I linked you to had about 18 sections, and what I did was this.

1) I saved each section to an HTML file and opened the HTML file next to the running page.

2) I let the clock run on each page while I was doing other stuff.

3) When the quiz comes up at the end of each section, I opened the saved HTML file and did a search for the quiz questions and aced all of the quizzes.

4) I also marked which section had each heading on a sheet of paper so that by the time the final quiz came up (which is like 50 questions) I could quickly refer to that HTML page to answer the questions.

I got 100% on everything by doing this.

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[info]michaelpop
2007-11-16 12:57 am UTC (link)
Sweet tips, Morgan. Thanks!

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morganology
2007-11-16 01:03 am UTC (link)
I felt awful doing it that way, really. But I just couldn't be bothered to read every fucking minute detail of that. I really couldn't.

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morganology
2007-11-16 12:30 am UTC (link)
I *just* did mine online. I literally let the clock run for every section as I was doing other stuff and it was great.

Mine was http://www.cheapfastfun.com/ and if you use the discount code "cheap" you get $3 off.

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[info]michaelpop
2007-11-16 12:33 am UTC (link)
I have no problem letting the clock run while I'm at work, so it would seem like online is the way to go. But what's the difference between doing it online and getting a booklet? Any idea?

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morganology
2007-11-16 12:36 am UTC (link)
I don't really know. I don't know what the booklet entails, per se, what I DO know is that when you do it online, they do everything for you, even fax your document to the court when you're done. You don't have to go wait in line, you don't have to do anything other than just login to the site.

For me, I think I just found that it was the easiest way.

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[info]stateofemergncy
2007-11-16 12:50 am UTC (link)
all home study traffic schools are required to fax course completion certificates to the correct courthouse within 24 hours of successful completion (meaning, you did the course and scored at least 80% on the final exam) of the course. that said, don't EVER pay for "expedited service" or "overnight" delivery of your completion certificate. it's a bullshit fee to cover a service they're required to offer and include.

the main difference between internet and booklet courses is that with internet courses, everything is done online and over the internet. booklet courses require you to fill out and submit (either by fax or mail, maybe even walk-in) quiz and final examination questions. oh, and that you have to call the school to order the material. aside from that, they're all the same.

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Re: online traffic school
[info]michaelpop
2007-11-16 12:33 am UTC (link)
YES!

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Fuck you, son! You're actin' like a little bitch right now!
[info]chillbot75
2007-11-16 01:23 am UTC (link)
Just pull a San Andres and pop a cap in a muthafucker!

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[info]swth
2007-11-16 01:41 am UTC (link)
I did the traffic school nearly seven years ago after my second ticket in six months. There wasn't even an online option then, but it really wasn't so bad - just a couple hours on a Saturday morning and common sense.

But $400?! Yikes. Even my apparent 64 in a 35 wasn't that bad. (There's no way I was doing anymore than 55 and it was literally a few yards from where it turned into a 55.)

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[info]beckon_you_on
2007-11-16 01:54 am UTC (link)
You already knew I was going to say this, but you are a lucky motherfucker. $400 is nothing compared to the hours and hours of DUI classes not to mention the $1500 fine that came with all that and pain in the ass of dealing with buses in central OC. Though that part kinda worked to my benefit, I got to nap on the way to/from work and was in decent shape from walking 1-2 miles a day. Heh.

Anyway in regards to traffic school, I have been lucky and besides my DUI in 2004 I've never gotten any other ticket, ever. SO I don't really know but a couple friends of mine say the online traffic school is a good deal.

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[info]michaelpop
2007-11-17 01:04 am UTC (link)
I knowwww. I got real lucky, and honestly, the experience has scared me straight in a way. I used to cruise on the freeways at 80 but now I try to stay around 75. And overall I'm definitely a LOT more aware of my surroundings and speed regardless of whether I've had anything to drink or not. Good thing I don't feel like going out and getting crunk as much as I used to.

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[info]__procession
2007-11-16 02:48 am UTC (link)
ughhhhhh $400 is so steep. seeing those lights flashing in your rear-view (zing!) is the worst. i get terribly nervous about being "busted" (for whatever reason), so even the fix-it ticket i got 3 years ago for expired tags left me feeling jittery.

since you're doling out the dough anyway, you might want to consider investing in a radar detector. they seem kind of pricey, but one of my closest friends (who is a MANIAC on the road) has one and i am sure it has saved him hundreds of thousands in traffic fines, let alone being jailed for multiple infractions.

and last but not least (and i can't stress this enough), you should argue your case, plea not guilty, and submit a "trial by mail" form detailing the event as you see it. this method has worked others ([info]burntcurtis *ahem*) i suggest that you check out this site: Ticket Assassin (lulz). no, really. it has a wealth of information and explains the process in no uncommon terms.

at least you were wearing your seatbelt! :)

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[info]michaelpop
2007-11-17 01:08 am UTC (link)
I think my previous speeding ticket was half that amount. WTF! I definitely was NOT expecting to shell out four bills.

I would consider arguing my case if it didn't mean taking time off from work. Bah, too much trouble. I know it's a lot of money and all, but I don't have much of a case anyway. I was speeding and all. I feel like it could've been worse and that I should just be thankful and pay my fine happily.

And of COURSE I was wearing my seatbelt. I always do!

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[info]kakem_vret
2007-11-16 03:37 am UTC (link)
before they offered it on the internets i used to go to shady places and pay them off let me know if interested... (but now with the online available why not? seems like hte best deal)

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[info]bunnyslopes
2007-11-16 06:41 am UTC (link)
"I was still a little worried about it 'cos I wear contacts and I was afraid that they might pop out or something and I'd fail and it'd have nothing at all to do with alcohol."

i think i told you this already, but i had the same thing happen to me about 3 years ago. i got pulled over (in covina!) and the cop made me get out of the car and asked me about how much i had had to drink. i told the truth, one drink a couple hours earlier. he did the "follow the light" thing with me too, and i think my response was "ok, but i'm wearing contacts right now". he also asked me if i knew how fast i was going, and when i said i wasn't sure he asked if i noticed what it said on my speedometer. my answer to that was "i don't know". after all that i didn't end up getting a ticket so it worked out alright...

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[info]michaelpop
2007-11-17 01:09 am UTC (link)
You actually did tell me this story... the last time I saw you in fact. I wonder how that came up in conversation.

I got pulled over in Covina once too! I ran a red light and a cop busted me and I was like, "I'm sorry, I know I totally blew through that light." and he let me off with a warning. That was awesome.

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[info]heartofkudzu
2007-11-16 01:53 pm UTC (link)
i was JUST thinking about tickets this morning while driving to work, about the time (maybe 3-4 years ago now?) i got a ticket for being in an awesome mood. it was a gorgeous day, i had been out shopping and found some awesome deals and cute clothes, and a particularly good song came on the radio, so i was singing and dancing in my seat and going too fast...and i totally blew RIGHT past a cop like an idiot. so of course he pulled me over and i was all sheepish, and i got a ticket.

online traffic school is totally the way to go. i've done it at work twice, and you do have to stay on the pages for a certain amount of time but you can be doing other stuff while the clock counts down. i copied and pasted everything into a word document and then for the quiz at the end just did searches for relevant terms (especially when they wanted stats) and aced it. definitely don't waste an afternoon at in-person traffic school!

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[info]adamsmaria80
2007-11-16 05:55 pm UTC (link)
Dude, all I have to say is, you are DAMNED LUCKY. As an owner of a DUI myself (AND for the record, NOT a single speeding ticket after 10 years of driving) all I can say is: take a cab. I know it's a pain in the ass, but so is $6500.

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[info]michaelpop
2007-11-17 01:12 am UTC (link)
Trust me, the first thing I thought of when I got pulled over was all of the people I know who've gone through the ordeal of a DUI and I was NOT looking forward to that hell at all.

Good advice, but unfortunately I live out in the sticks so a cab ride would probably run me about $500.

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[info]kabballer
2007-11-16 05:57 pm UTC (link)
The only benefit to doing traffic school live is all the hot dudes you'll meet, but I'm not sure that's enough to motivate you now.

Sucks man, sorry to hear about that steep fine.

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[info]michaelpop
2007-11-17 01:13 am UTC (link)
Hot dudes? At traffic school?? What the hell?!?!???

Eh, it's just money. Although it does mean that everyone's getting hugs for Christmas this year.

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[info]letigrette
2007-11-16 06:31 pm UTC (link)
Ugh! Ya, the whole experience and fine could have been a lot worse, but at least he didn't handcuff you! And bring another cop over to feel your boobs!

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[info]michaelpop
2007-11-17 01:14 am UTC (link)
Hahahah, TRUE, I could've started freaking out and gotten groped all over the place.

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[info]hornbuckle
2007-11-16 06:32 pm UTC (link)
$400 is crazy! even that ticket i got a few months ago for supposedly going 21mph over the speed limit (which i'm *still* sorting out) was a bit less than that. :(

at any rate, i used traffic school for my rolling stop ticket (yeah, i know.. i should have saved it and just taken that one, but i wasn't anticipating getting another ticket so quickly), and i used happy traffic school online. it was the cheapest that i came across, and it was fucking easy. i did skim through everything (most of which was totally redundant), but they even give you links to all of the text so you can read it while you're taking the final quiz. and i did it all over the course of a day at work.

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[info]michaelpop
2007-11-17 01:15 am UTC (link)
I know, I was NOT expecting a $400 fine for only going 10 miles over the limit.

Thanks for the link, David! I think that one's a winner! $15 is perfect.

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comedy traffic school!
[info]forestbleu
2007-11-16 11:31 pm UTC (link)
i've done comedy traffic school. they're all the same. open book. super easy. if you do the one online, you can cheat by cutting and pasting the questions on to another screen. that's naughty.. hahahhaa. but i've done it.
just look for one that's close and "comedy". there are different prices, so ask ahead. love, db

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[info]madflowr
2007-11-18 07:54 am UTC (link)
i've done traffic school for the same reason as you. back when i did it in virginia, online was NOT an option or i would have done it. i had to go to a class two times or maybe three times for two or three hours. it sucked, but they struck that ticket from my records which was great. i used to speed everywhere. recently i was told that i "drove like a granny" which is so funny. i drive 5 over the speed limit, but that's it. tops. :)

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hi michael.
[info]shelostherheart
2007-11-25 08:03 pm UTC (link)
..it is not that bad actually. it's kinda just like you do it & then you are done.. i know this because my dad forgot to renew his driver's licensce.. umm. for 25 years. he DIDN'T know you HAVE to renew it.. :o) then he got caught for speeding. i don't drive because of panic attacks. hi. i am sara. i am lindsey's friend. i read your journal except i am an insomniac social phobe especially since i got my shit fucked up in an abusive relationship but i am a korean american adoptee too. hahaha. ♥ i think i will add you if that is okay. i met lindsey thru zines a looong time ago & because my dad died, she can explain it..

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