Canadian Tuxedo Optional ([info]michaelpop) wrote,
@ 2008-03-18 11:18:00
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Already losing touch with the kids.
Reading about SXSW is what I imagine being forced to watch a slideshow of someone elses vacation must be like. Or being the only sober person at a kegger. I'm sure it's fun and all, but it's hard to really muster up much enthusiasm to read about it. So I'm glad it's over now and that the onslaught of SXSW updates are going to start trickling to a close. I have read exactly one recap of the festival and it was in yesterday's LA Times. One point stood out to me above all the others: there was no Next Big Thing. I hadn't thought of that in a while and it got me thinking because unless I'm missing something, there really isn't a predominant trend in music right now, is there? You know, the one sound or geographical location that's in vogue where the record companies rush to capitalize on and the media shines their spotlights in order to generate hype to hopefully sell records and magazines. Without thinking about it too hard, this decade we've had garage-rock, electroclash, post-post-punk, freak-folk, Swedes, Seattle (again) and Toronto... but where in the cycle are we at now? For better or for worse, who's the next Strokes? For better or for worse, with the state of the record industry in freefall, will there ever even be another Strokes?

And it got me thinking about Vampire Weekend because I listened to their album three times yesterday. I tried and tried and I really can't understand all the hate directed towards them. I missed all the pre-release hype, so all I've read is the post-release vitriol. Until they came along I don't think I ever read a review of what's essentially a four-piece indie rock band's music as being described as "afro-pop". Maybe so, but that term just sounds pretentious. To me they sound like Paul Simon's Graceland and recently remind me of a less alt. country Actual Tigers. But whatever their influences, what's so bad about a band who makes jaunty, highly melodic pop music? It seems like they made exactly the sort of record they wanted and while it owes debts all over town, they're not exactly piggybacking onto anyones coattails. You can't even say that the singer's got a whiny, annoyingly affected voice a la Messrs. Gibbard and Meloy. So I just don't get it.

Whatever. I just bought the reunited Kula Shaker's new album last night so I don't even know what that makes me. Perpetually 17-years-old and hoping for a Mansun reunion? Probably.


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[info]beckon_you_on
2008-03-18 06:36 pm UTC (link)
I felt the same way about the lineup. I know SXSW is supposed to be the place to create buzz for otherwise-unheard-of bands, but they could have had 1 or 2 more that didn't make me and everyone I know go "WTF who are these bands" the entire list.

I might just be bitter I couldn't even make it up there for a couple parties I had access to, though. Whatevs.. snooze.

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[info]michaelpop
2008-03-18 06:57 pm UTC (link)
I think that's how most people feel about Coachella, too. There are some pretty good newish bands playing but they're of the $8-at-Spaceland variety so I can't justify hundreds and hundreds of dollars to see them.

But hey, have you seen the album cover for the new James record? Babies and guns!

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(no subject) - [info]beckon_you_on, 2008-03-18 06:58 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]anddreamofsheep, 2008-03-18 07:18 pm UTC (Expand)
Reunited and it feels so good. - [info]michaelpop, 2008-03-18 07:21 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Reunited and it feels so good. - [info]anddreamofsheep, 2008-03-18 07:30 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]melcore
2008-03-18 06:40 pm UTC (link)
a) i didn't even bother trying to go to sxsw b/c there wasn't anyone i really wanted to see that i haven't already seen. also, i'm old and out of touch with what the kids like and i will sit here with my old britpop albums and wish for the good ol' days, thankyouverymuch. heh.

b) i don't have a problem with vampire weekend's music, but for some reason i was irrationally angry about the outfits they wore on SNL a few weeks back. i don't know why. i just couldn't figure out why they were all dressed up like the asshole preppy dude in all those 80s teen movies.

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[info]brasstax
2008-03-18 06:45 pm UTC (link)
Because they're all, like, 20 years old. 20 year-olds do dumb shit. That doesn't make me like their record any less, though.

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[info]michaelpop
2008-03-18 07:02 pm UTC (link)
i will sit here with my old britpop albums and wish for the good ol' days

Word to that. I'm still holding onto hope that Pulp will get back together and tour. I can't wait until we become the "old people" at shows. Or snap, maybe we already are???

Hahaha, they are TOTALLY the asshole preppy dude in all 80s movies! Wouldn't it be something if RALPH LAUREN became the indie label du jour? Time to stock up on madras shorts!

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(no subject) - [info]indievixen, 2008-03-23 06:18 am UTC (Expand)

[info]nowaitbutlisten
2008-03-18 06:44 pm UTC (link)
dude, vampire weekend is so up my alley it's sick. i was (and am) so pumped about them. but since i don't read jack anymore about music i didn't know people were hating. i just know they're on the cover of spin and i was like, "what? do they just put anyone on the cover of magazines?" but i already knew that answer (hi, it's SPIN!)

but yeah, i read the lineup for sxsw and only paid like, 10 seconds of attention because of r.e.m. but i don't know (and don't care) about ANY of these bands anymore and i think it's because i'm old. and don't have the internet at home. and work at a major label that has actually sorta warped my brain into thinking that downloading IS stealing (huh?!). and basically just really happy to listen to all the albums i discovered 5 (+10) years ago that i know and feel comfortable with. i can't put forth the effort anymore.

isn't that sad?

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[info]michaelpop
2008-03-18 07:07 pm UTC (link)
I really think it's a great album. It makes me wish I had a convertible so I could go crusing down PCH with the top down. Total summertime jamz.

I still put for the effort, but man, it's not even close to how it used to be. I don't live in record stores anymore, mainly because THEY KEEP GOING OUT OF BUSINESS, but also, I have other PRIORITIES. I have a feeling I'll always try and keep up with what's going on, but I know I'll probably only end up being like one step cooler than a soccer mom. I don't think it's sad, I just think it's GROWING UP.

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[info]thimblewinder
2008-03-18 06:46 pm UTC (link)
i am totally stoked about vampire weekend's album! someone mentioned it in passing and it was on sale at newbury comics, and i was drawn in by the packaging. so far i really, really like it. it reminds me of "graceland" (kinda) and talking heads (lots) and is generally good times. oxford comma lulz!

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(no subject) - [info]michaelpop, 2008-03-18 07:15 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]thimblewinder, 2008-03-18 07:36 pm UTC (Expand)
You'd think I'd like something with "Vampire" in the name...
[info]vintagelife
2008-03-18 07:03 pm UTC (link)
See, I dislike them because I don't like the way the sound, not because of the hype. No matter what I listen to, I'm just not into it.

And so seeing them grace the cover of SPIN, well that was just retarded. But hey, a lot of people like them, so they must be doing something right.

As far as new music goes, I am falling way behind. I think the only "new" music I have liked/got so far this year has been the new Hot Chip an She & Him albums. What a big stretch from what I normally listen to!

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It took me 10 minutes to realize you were making a "Buffy" reference. - [info]michaelpop, 2008-03-18 07:19 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]ihatesnard
2008-03-18 07:08 pm UTC (link)
you should really go to sxsw one year. it's INSANE. last year i didn't even look at who was playing, because there are seriously hundreds of bands. but i ended up discovering a lot of new bands, esp stoner psych bands that larry dragged us out to. but dude we were on the same bill as Sloan on one of the parties. and saw Amy Winehouse with her crazy ass hair walking down the street. and Wayne Coyne who smiled at me. and i remember missing a bunncchh of bands that i wanted to see. ok so that was last year. i wasn't there this year so OBVIOUSLY it was lacking... ;)

vampire weekend's cool. i think people hate them because 1) they have so much insta-hype and everyone is jealous and thinks they are undeserving brats--especially oldies who have been busting their asses in the business for over 10 years and 2) because they are young and successful. they are the next Strokes in my eyes, but it seems the staying power of the buzz band of the moment isn't as long as it was in the past. its like buzz, hype, blog, then oblivion.

i think the "now sound" is electronic / dance whatever: MIA, LCD, whatever the heck is out there. and kids in stupid neon prints. its kindof the punk rock of now. indie rock is kindof stale and too safe, with bands like Great Northern and Silversun Pickups (at least locally) being the "successful" ones. Vampire Weekend to me is a breath of fresh air.

why am i writing an essay? hi. sushi when?

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[info]let_em_all_go
2008-03-18 07:22 pm UTC (link)
I hate Vampire Weekend because I find their music to be dull and they come across as very entitled to me. But I'm getting really, really, really tired of "indie" music these days, in general. I feel like it's all fake and pretentious and has nothing to say. I'm getting old. I pretty much only listen to alt-country from the 90's these days. 10 years late to the party, as usual.

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(no subject) - [info]michaelpop, 2008-03-18 07:26 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]lollerk8
2008-03-18 08:57 pm UTC (link)
I quit being a music writer because I like music I like and I don't like music I don't like and I got sick of trying to convince anyone about it either way.

Toronto has a sound? is it the sound of a thousand snotty hipster kids in chuck taylors trying to be broken social scene whom I dislike anyway?

bleh

I like the Vampire Weekend record because it makes me bop. I am not so so into them but then again, I'm not so so into anyone from this decade right now anyway?

Sorry these are all disjointed thoughts because I should be doing essays for school right now.

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[info]sinca
2008-03-18 09:21 pm UTC (link)
I don't know - I am offically old now, so maybe I just don't like Vampire Weekend because it's hard for me to get into new music in general but their sound just doesn't grab me at all. But, I do have Graceland on my iPod so maybe I should give their record a shot.

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(no subject) - [info]michaelpop, 2008-03-18 10:03 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]redelvis
2008-03-18 10:17 pm UTC (link)
Honestly I've only heard good things about Vampire Weekend... then I saw them on SNL and I listened to their songs on myspace or whatever and I got bored of it. In fact it made me want to listen to The Walkmen. Vampire Weekend sound like The Walkman put in a blender with happy pills and cotton candy sweaters. All quite boring. It's true the Walkmen have put out some questionable shit lately but their first two are classix.

It seems like I only like new DANCE music these days...

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[info]mintyduck
2008-03-18 10:30 pm UTC (link)
I hope, at the very least, you can appreciate this:
http://www.themorningnews.org/archives/reviews/sixword_reviews_of_763_sxsw_mp3s.php

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(no subject) - [info]michaelpop, 2008-03-18 11:32 pm UTC (Expand)

pastahero
2008-03-18 10:34 pm UTC (link)
I hate on VW because they went to Columbia and I have firsthand knowledge that 98 percent of Columbia kids are douchebags.

Their actual music is fine, though. I only listen to country now anyway.

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[info]chillbot75
2008-03-18 11:31 pm UTC (link)
Well, if you're looking for something not so new and yet still undiscovered CLICK HERE

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(no subject) - [info]michaelpop, 2008-03-18 11:34 pm UTC (Expand)
I'm glad you asked... - [info]chillbot75, 2008-03-18 11:57 pm UTC (Expand)
Why couldn't I have downloaded a virus instead?? - [info]michaelpop, 2008-03-19 12:09 am UTC (Expand)

[info]swth
2008-03-19 12:22 am UTC (link)
I'm absolutely convinced that there will never be another Strokes. The way the recording industry has changed even over the last seven years is extraordinary. (Wow, that just sunk in heavy. It was Apr 22 '01 when I first played the Strokes on my radio show. I'm now old.) As for Vampire Weekend, I overheard someone the other day referring to them as the band Steff and Blane (Pretty in Pink) would've started. It's just a weird time right now with popular music. There is way too much to keep up on and so I gave up entirely.

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(no subject) - [info]michaelpop, 2008-03-19 06:36 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]benjy_c
2008-03-19 01:15 am UTC (link)
'Already losing touch with the kids'? I can totally identify with that! There so much new stuff coming out which is hailed as great but i honestly can't see what all the fuss is about. I'm much happier backtracking and sticking with all the music that I was into three years ago and before. I've only heard one great album this year so far and it's by Bob Mould - a man who has long since past his prime but still can turn out a good song or two in his old age.

One of my best friends was at SXSW this year - she has 'connections'. She showed me the list of bands playing this year and it was several pages long! No wonder all the indie bands down my way fall on top of each other to get a slot in it each year.

Can't say Vampire Weekend have taken my fancy all that much. Our national 'alternative' station Triple J have gone bonkers over them in the last couple of months so i'll have to get used to hearing that name for a while.

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[info]efffthatnoise
2008-03-19 07:30 am UTC (link)
http://www.cokemachineglow.com/record_review/3204/vampire-weekend

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[info]businesscasual
2008-03-19 02:29 pm UTC (link)
...meanwhile, I'm trying to figure out what song is going to be the Next "Mambo No.5". Who are the Baha Men going to pass the torch to?!

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(no subject) - [info]michaelpop, 2008-03-19 06:04 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]madflowr
2008-03-19 05:38 pm UTC (link)
yeah, i just felt bad to miss seeing my friends the brother kite play three times since they are one of my all-times, ya know? BUT all in all, i don't feel like i missed that much this year. i do plan to go next year though. when i went in 2006, it was a lot of fun.

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[info]kabballer
2008-03-20 02:22 am UTC (link)
Wow, that Buzz Bin is scary. Does that actually say "Nas" third from the bottom?

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[info]tigermilking
2008-03-20 09:00 am UTC (link)
i can't stand vampire weekend. they are incredibly immature and their lyrics are ridiculously dumb. i mean, they actually referred to their silly hipster scarf as a "keffiyeh". granted it is the correct term, it just sounds incredibly pretentious. definitely ripping off paul simon. and many other great bands. i consider them a bastardized, shittier version of what a good indie band should sound like. they have been groomed for radio, mtv, and income.

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[info]tigermilking
2008-03-20 09:09 am UTC (link)
ps: i know he always mentions school and i can only guess it's an ivy-league school paid for by his parents. i have a wild assumption they might be english majors. if they aren't, they probably wish they were. at least the lead singer.

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